Lurker introduction ....

[223_GENES]

Hello everybody.

Ive been a lurker here and I just thought I should introduce myself.I have met Peter C from another message board.
I'm a lifetime drummer (aren't we all ?). For the last few years I have abandoned my drummer identity to become a saxophonist but am now feeling the tug of that old passion coming back. Reading all the great posts here has wet my appitite to get involved in the discussions.

Scott

[peter c]

Hey, Scott.

Welcome to HOD.

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[223_GENES]

Thanks for the welcome !

I'm always amazed at the number of great drummers there are. I guess these are the ones that have entertained me the most.

Bill Bruford
Danny Seraphine
Billy Cobham
Ian Paice
John Bonham
Buddy Rich
Steve Gadd !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Every Sting Drummer !


How about your favourites ?

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[five eight]

Rarely do I see Ian Paice mentioned. Have you heard him on McCartney's RUN DEVIL RUN? Very un-Purplish drumming from him.

My favorites? You and I admire the same cats; plus Vinnie, Phillips, Purdie, Williams and Weckl for me. And lots of others.

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[223_GENES]

That was a walk down memory lane for me. At the time in the early to mid seventies I loved the progressive rock and blues-rock bands like Yes, ELP, Led Zepplin, Deep Purple, Robin Trower Santana, Hendrix. At that time I listened alot to Carl Palmer, John Bonham, Ian Paice and Bill Bruford. Out of these 4 drummers, Bruford is the only one I still listen to today (well Bonham too ) . Bill's probably the only one that moved on. I loved the jazzy approach to rock music that Ian Paice seemed to have.
That was all before 1975 when Buddy Rich came to town and blew my mind ! I didn't know much about jazz and wasn't really coming from there as you can see. I thought I should check this jazz guy out. Maybe mom and dads music has something to offer. Well, I sat about 50 feet away from him and was mesmerized. I had no idea that jazz could be that explosive ! That night is frozen in my mind now and a turning point. I immediately started to explore jazz and luckily enough my high school had an excellent band which I eventually joined.
Anyway, I think I've rambled enough now. Can't help it when I start talking music.
I'm afraid I haven't heard Ian Paice with Paul McCartney. Could be interesting though. I know the drummers you have mentioned but other than Vinnie and maybe Weckl, I don't hear them regularly. What are you favourite Simon Phillips recordings, if that is the Phillips you are talking about ?

[five eight]

Simon Phillips is a magnificent drummer whom I admire as much as Weckl and Colaiuta. My favorite recordings of his are Beck's There & Back, Another Lifetime, Force Majuere, Lukather's Candyman and Doves of Fire.

When I first came to HOD I thought Dave and Vinnie were the hippest, most skilled players alive. I owned every one of Weckl's videos and all the Vinnie footage commercially available and watched the stuff incessantly. Both played traditional grip and moved electric jazz and fusion into the realm of Lifetime and Mahavishnu.

I'd heard Phillips since he toured the States with Jeff Beck at age 23. Neil Peart touted him highly in the pages of MD. Phillips's street cred was as unbelievable as the interminable list of major acts he'd recorded/toured with. But I'd never seen him play outside the ARMS tour behind Beck's group and Jimmy Page's new band with Paul Rodgers. In that situation he was fantastically capable but I didn't REALLY SEE SIMON until I saw a Los Lobotomys DVD of the Candyman tour. The cameras were an arm's length away and I saw the Herculean power and precision with which he played. He had all the bases covered: odd time, groove, chops, double bass, creativity, control, EVERYthing. Because he played with matched grip I identified with him more than Vinnie and Weckl; and Simon played rock and roll. Not the kind of self-conscious technical rock Peart played with pursed lips and furrowed brow; no, Simon played with assurance and attitude as the captain and commander of the USS Phillips. And he looked cool as hell doing it.

I acquired Simon's two instructional videos and while they're great, they paled compared to that live Los Lobotomys performance. Those instructional videos did display that Simon possessed all the tricked-out speed, rudimental savvy and individual out-of-left-field approach as my other heroes Vinnie and Dave. All three men imbue different qualities in regards to the drums; each has his own niche, his own specialty, his own bag of tricks, his turf. All three swim in the very deepest waters of the pool, where Tony Williams and Buddy Rich used to tread. All those drummers blazed trails, opened possibilities and pioneered directions. That is rare in any field of endeavor.

[five eight]

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[FuseU1]

[...*Sound of audience clapping*...]
BRA-vo, 5-o...[NTB confused w "jog-", again [img]wink.gif[/img] ]...couldn't've said it better m'self...

His tunes Protocol & V-8 off his 1st solo disc ['88] has some fiendishly excellent SP drumg...

We gotsta get a hold of his "Vantage Point," too...i hears it's him in more of a jazz combo setting, which i'd very much like to hear....

[five eight]

I understand that Vantage Point disk is great. That's probably where the Jeff Babko connection came in that led Simon and Babs to Doves of Fire. I used to think Doves was Lukather's idea but after hearing the group I'm very much convinced that was Simon's band.

Showed a couple of guitarists the Los Lobotomys DVD last night. Despite how good the Luke-Pena-Garfield front line was, they were in awe of the star of the show, the little guy behind the massive red drum kit. As for drummers who haven't seen it it will cause you to reassess Simon's place in your mental ranking of major drummers. Unless he was already in your top five.

[BennyAndTheSkins]

Yup, gotta love the 17/8 "Party in Simon's Pants". Hey, there's a "Hot for Teacher" groove going on there as well, during Garfield's piano solo [img]wink.gif[/img]

Actually, that was my first exposure to David Garfield's playing. I still think that piano solo is one of the most kick-ass solos that I've ever heard. I just love Garfields chops on that as well as little Simon's.

Yeah, that tune still sends chills down my spine when I hear it......